Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
Method of application details for coconut and argan oils (TAM)
Timing
The method of application post timing of at least an hour, is a general recommendation, based on reports of 10 and 15 minutes, resulting in after pretreatment and conventional hair colouring/lightening dryness. There was still no hair damage reported. Timing can vary with individual choice and what process is being done to the hair. The oil(s) need time to saturate the hair and be absorbed as much as possible. In the research on cells, the cells were preincubated with flavonoids for 24 hours, before being subjected to hydrogen peroxide. I do not think that 24 hours is necessary for the pretreatment but overnight has been reported to be a preferred option. So has less time, as in less than 1 hour. To me, it depends on what process is being used.
Access to the hair
Any coating on the hair can negatively affect conventional hair colour and lightening results and has been reported to do so. The pretreatment oil(s) should help with porosity issues and uneven colouring results and both dye uptake and colour results have been reported to be excellent, when these oils have been used.
Amount of oils used
Initially there were concerns, that a heavy pretreatment oiling, would interfere with conventional hair colouring and lightening results. The opposite has been reported to be the case. More of the oil(s), has been reported to resolve after process dryness issues, and both colour and lightening results have been reported to be excellent, when coconut oil/coconut oil & argan oil have been used.
The method of application post is designed to help the pretreatment yield optimal results, and is based on the reports to date, and research.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
I am happy to report that a pre-treatment of argan and coconut oils seems to have prevented damage from conventional hair dye, and actually improved dye uptake.
I've decided to take a break from henna, and opted to use a semi-permanent dye to color the new hair growth, and touch up fading color on the length. After washing with a mild shampoo, I let my hair dry for a bit, then applied the oils from roots to the ends; enough to saturate but not feel greasy. I left this in overnight, and dyed my hair in the morning. I used conditioner to rinse out the dye, which was not quite effective enough to remove all the oil, but my hair felt fine afterward. Normally it would take a few days for my hair to recover from from the dye process, and require lots of pampering. I CO washed again the next day, which removed the remaining oil residue. There was no noticeable dye runoff after this second wash, which has never happened before. Usually my hair would bleed color for several washes.
Thanks so much to ktani for starting this thread, and everyone who posted about their experiences. I'm still leery of using conventional dyes on a regular basis, but it is good to know that I can use them occasionally without the risk of serious damage.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
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Originally Posted by
chickpea
I am happy to report that a pre-treatment of argan and coconut oils seems to have prevented damage from conventional hair dye, and actually improved dye uptake.
I've decided to take a break from henna, and opted to use a semi-permanent dye to color the new hair growth, and touch up fading color on the length. After washing with a mild shampoo, I let my hair dry for a bit, then applied the oils from roots to the ends; enough to saturate but not feel greasy. I left this in overnight, and dyed my hair in the morning. I used conditioner to rinse out the dye, which was not quite effective enough to remove all the oil, but my hair felt fine afterward. Normally it would take a few days for my hair to recover from from the dye process, and require lots of pampering. I CO washed again the next day, which removed the remaining oil residue. There was no noticeable dye runoff after this second wash, which has never happened before. Usually my hair would bleed color for several washes.
Thanks so much to ktani for starting this thread, and everyone who posted about their experiences. I'm still leery of using conventional dyes on a regular basis, but it is good to know that I can use them occasionally without the risk of serious damage.
Thank you so much for your report! Do you want me to add it to the others, or keep it in the Pending File for at bit of time, until you are more sure of no perceived damage?
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
Current Pending File updated, until I hear otherwise.
1. Nat242
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1055
2. shadowclaw
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1084
3. chickpea, coconut and argan oils, before a semi permantent dye on hennaed hair regrowth
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1104
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
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Originally Posted by
ktani
Thank you so much for your report! Do you want me to add it to the others, or keep it in the Pending File for at bit of time, until you are more sure of no perceived damage?
Yes, go ahead and add it! I'm sure I would have seen noticeable damage by now if the oil pre-treatment did not work.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
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Originally Posted by
chickpea
Yes, go ahead and add it! I'm sure I would have seen noticeable damage by now if the oil pre-treatment did not work.
Thank you! I appreciate your getting back to me.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
Update on the condition of my hair:
It's been ten days since I colored my hair, and the oil really does seem to have completely protected my hair. I haven't had any dryness or breakage, and my hair is smooth as silk. I'm pretty sure you can mark my case as a success.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
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Originally Posted by
shadowclaw
Update on the condition of my hair:
It's been ten days since I colored my hair, and the oil really does seem to have completely protected my hair. I haven't had any dryness or breakage, and my hair is smooth as silk. I'm pretty sure you can mark my case as a success.
Great news! Thank you so much for updating and letting me know. I shall add your report to the Reports Post.
Re: Possible way to protect hair from conventional peroxide damage
Reports Post II - No damage reports continued
Coconut oil and coconut and argan oils as a pre-treatment, continued.
33. shadowclaw, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before permanent colour, on previously dyed hair - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1084, update, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1113
34. Nat242, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before 10 volume peroxide, used continuously, to lighten hennaed hair- initial report - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1055, update after taking time to evaluate possible damage, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1153
35. Dolly, coconut oil as a pre-treatment on previously dyed hair, 3rd treatment of a heavy oiling, consistant results with her last 2 reports, #'s 18 and 26, increased dye uptake, no damage reported, no post colouring dryness - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1175, confirmation of no damage, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1177, results on using a pre-treatment of coconut oil and the need to trim following colouring, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1180, further clarification on how hair colour affected her hair and more details on her first report here, Report #7 - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1182, verification of increased dye uptake - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1200, summary on pre-oiling and damage - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1064
36. Freija, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before 20 volume peroxide, to lighten henna (lightened it about 2 shades) - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1189, her thread, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ad.php?t=30943
37. Palms, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before Sun-In on hennaed hair, and on hi-lighted hair after that, that was also conventionally coloured, and the difference between using and not using the coconut oil as a pre-treatment, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1203
38. shadowclaw, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before permanent colour, on previously dyed hair, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1158
39. CurlyGirlCa, coconut oil as a pre-treatment before previously dyed hair -
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1148
40. Dolly, a heavy coconut oiling as a pre-treatment before permanent colour, left on for only only 30 minutes with optimal results, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1154
41. CrystalTips, a heavy overnight coconut pre-treatment before a root touch-up and low lights with semi-permantent colour, - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1196, - condition of the hair - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1205, - pictures - http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1208
42. girlcat36, a heavy overnight coconut oiling and then a 10 minute coconut and argan oiling as pre-treatments before a 15 semi-permanent hair colour, ttp://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=913774&postcount=1215
43. girlcat36, a heavy coconut oiling with a thin layer of argan oil on top of that, left on as a pre-treatment for 3 hours, before a 20 minute roots only semi-permanent hair colour, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1230
44. FrannyG, an update after using coconut oil as a pre-treatment for 17 months on previously coloured hair, dyed with permanent hair colour. Result is an increase of 1 inch in ponytail circumference due to lack of breakage, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1236, - details and more, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1244, - pictures http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1246
45. Pandora, bleaching roots only, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1274
46. bigred 199, peroxide used to lighten henna, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1270
47. Loviatar, heavy coconut oiling, permanent dye,
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1277
48. FrannyG, after 2 years using coconut oil as a pre-treatment before permanent dye to help prevent peroxide damage, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1292, details, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1295
49. Heartwillfollow, after using coconut oil as a pre-treatment before Sun-In on hennaed hair, following honey lightening,
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=4398
50. girlcat36, heavy overnight coconut oiling, with more added the following morning, with semi-permanent colour, 15 minutes on the roots, and 5 minutes on the length mixed with conditioner, on previously dyed, fine, fragile hair, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1313
51. girlcat36, heavy coconut oil overnight oiling on dry hair for roots only, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1330
52. milagro, dye tone-to-tone with semi-permanent haircolor (6%), http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1350, See also, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1336
53. madeline, bleach
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1332, See also, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1352
1 no damage Report on olive oil used as a pre-treatment before a 10 minute permanent hair colour
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1190, details http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...postcount=1295