I just remembered that I had some old laquered chopsticks that my mom brought over from China before I was born. Smallest measures 9 inches. I can't shorten them do to thickness and age. Not even sure there wood as there high end Chop sticks meant for formal dinners. I have never put my hair up in a bun only ponytails. Would these work do to length and or thinness? My hair is slick and above avg thick but not super thick. Sorry can't post pictures as on my tablet posting.