Searched LHC to find this thread again. I don't feel tv commercials have any effect on me:but wow, do I ever listen to you guys on LHC! Lol! After posting i'd never tried spin pins,just Amish hairpins, on my fine 2c, HL plus, hair,(longest layers now reach BCL) afraid spin pins would get tangled;hard to remove; I read all of your posts. Lol,am the proud owner of a set of blonde spin pins as of yesterday;will search & report back when I use them! I do shopping trips after reading LHC!